In this episode I expand a bit more on meditation and lucid dreams and give a rundown of my basic core components of lucid dreaming practice and describe my favorite induction method.
Show Notes:
- LucidAbility.com
- The Tibetan Yogas Of Dream And Sleep
- Dream Yoga and the Practice of Natural Light
- Ken Wilber Stops His Brain Waves
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Hi there ๐
Thank you for a very interesting Podcast! I was listening to this episode (I know it is quite old, apologies if someone has already raised the same point) and I could not help but noticing that you are describing WBTB/MILD but you are calling it WILD.
I have only managed 4 WILD lucid dreams and I can confirm that it means to go into the dream state without losing consciousness. This is a very different from going into the dream and remembering that you are dreaming because of the suggestion/intention.
A WILD is a continues progression through the stages of falling a sleep, passing through the hypnagogic imagery stage with awareness untill you end up into the dream. At that point you dont need to remember anything because you never forgot anything and, in my experience at least, you usually have high level of lucidity from the get go.
Hope that is useful ๐
Best
Dionysis
Hi Dionysis,
Thanks for the comment.
I went back and listened as it has been a while and I didn’t remember what I said exactly. In general, I do agree with what you are saying but I am describing several things in the episode.
The intention I mentioned early in the episode is just part of general practice, but the intention I mention in the part where I describe my method is just a helpful addition to falling back asleep consciously. I definitely would agree that most people doing WILD experience very clearly the continuity of awareness through the hypnagogic stage, however I do not, despite the experience being seamless between imagining being back in the dream while awake, and suddenly actually being in the dream and asleep but lucid. I would still consider this WILD, it is not the intention to remember that produces lucidity, it is maintaining awareness (or lucidity) from waking to dreaming. MILD is with intention alone, using prospective memory basically, and WBTB is something Iโve grown more loosely to refer to any method done in the middle of the night that required waking up and going back to sleep. (which is slightly different than itโs original description, i know).
So the specific part I am describing of essentially going directly from wakefulness into REM is definitely WILD, as it is not that I imagine becoming lucid in the dream, fall asleep, and then what I imagined happens and i become lucid. But it is that I imagine being back in the dream as I fall back asleep, and that visualization (which is done while being aware) turns into the dream by the time I am back in REM, at which point I am already lucid in it. Why i do not experience the hypnagogic (and never have btw) in the middle is a puzzle to me.
Hope this makes sense. Would love your thoughts. and thanks for listening to the podcast.
Jay